--- title: How true is the saying 'As goes the manager, so goes the team'? description: Many of us have heard the phrase, “As goes the leader, so goes the team,” and much has been written about empathy in leadership, servant leadership, and ethical leadership. 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Posted by [Carole Mahoney](https://www.unboundgrowth.com/blog/author/carole-mahoney) on 3/7/18 7:25 AM - [Tweet](https://twitter.com/share) Last year a sales manager asked for sales coaching because he “*...didn’t want his shortcomings to become the collateral damage to his team.*” After going through a 3-6 month program to ‘coach the coach’ and the team at the same time, his SaaS sales team is now #1 in their company, with a 98% customer retention rate. Many of us have heard the phrase, “As goes the leader, so goes the team,” and much has been written about empathy in leadership (put yourself in their shoes), servant leadership (put others first), and ethical leadership (do what is right). And there are [studies that show](https://www.baylor.edu/business/research/index.php?id=48209) that these things help team members be more creative and more efficient when doing their jobs. ![As goes the manager.png](https://www.unboundgrowth.com/hs-fs/hubfs/images/As%20goes%20the%20manager.png?width=400&name=As%20goes%20the%20manager.png "As goes the manager.png") But back to the sales manager who was concerned that his team would suffer because of his shortcomings, both known and unknown. This manager had many strengths, including a servant mindset, empathy, and high ethical standards. So why were his strengths not enough to elevate and lead his team? The answer is a double edged sword, as this manager well knew. Not only was he likely to pass on his own bad habits, he also wouldn’t be able to help his team to find a way to fix theirs. ### What the data says about the impact of sales leadership  First, it is important to remember that the management role requires different skill sets than the salesperson’s role. Therefore you can not always correlate the data as it relates to specific skills. So what are we really saying when we repeat the phrase, “As goes the leader, so goes the sales team”? Where do skills come from? Learned and practiced behaviors. And where do those behaviors come from? Our beliefs, attitudes, and mindsets towards those behaviors. So when we talk about sales management impacting the team, it’s not just what they do- but how they think. Changing how we think is difficult, but far from impossible. But [which mindsets have the greatest impact](https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/do-you-know-what-fundamentals-sales-carole-mahoney/)? For that answer, I analyzed the most comprehensive [sales data from OMG](http://stats.objectivemanagement.com/426) that has compiled data from over 2 million sales professionals measured on 282 sales specific attributes (I will let you do that math on how many data points that is). What the data showed revealed some interesting things worth considering. Some that were downright surprising to me! ### Supportive Beliefs The beliefs of your manager and team will either support, or sabotage, their outcomes. According to The Theory of Reasoned Action, the decision to perform a particular behavior is determined by our attitude towards doing it, what other close to us would consider normal, and if it will lead to a positive outcome. Some examples of common non-supportive beliefs: - “I can’t get referrals.” - “I can’t call on decision makers.” - “I need to educate my prospects.” - “Prospects have all the power.” - “It’s ok to spend a lot of time with prospects that don’t buy.” - “If they say they will buy, they will eventually.” The data speaks loud and clear here. 80% of managers do not have supportive beliefs and 89% of salespeople do not. The good news is that if your manager does have supportive beliefs, their team is **1000% more likely to share those beliefs.** On the flip side, if your manager DOES NOT have the supportive beliefs necessary to get to the desired outcomes, your team is **355% more likely to also not** have those supportive beliefs. Clearly, supportive beliefs are where managers can have the biggest impact on their team. ### Need for Approval The [impact in which skills that have a need for approval](https://www.unboundgrowth.com/blog/can-one-question-change-the-cadence-of-an-entire-sales-meeting) have on your sales team’s ability to execute include: - Not asking enough good questions - Not being consultative - Wasting time on inappropriate proposals and presentations - Not understanding how a prospect will buy - Assuming the yes - Not actively listening When salespeople aren’t able to do these things, they aren’t pushing back on prospects when appropriate, or challenging the status quo. If you want your team to sell consultatively on value and not price, then this is one area you can’t afford to overlook. According to the data, 38% of sales managers struggle with a need for approval, whereas 59% of salespeople struggle. It also showed that if a sales manager doesn’t have a need for approval, the team is **32% less likely to struggle.** But if the sales manager does struggle with a need for approval, their team is **124% more likely** to also have a need for approval. Managers with a need for approval are passing it along to their team with alarming results. ### Emotional control Symptoms of [a lack of emotional control](https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/how-stop-getting-emotional-sales-carole-mahoney) in your sales team may include: - Thrown off by unexpected buyer questions - Missing opportunities to ask or reframe questions - Talking too much - Excessive ‘filler’ words - Not answering buyer questions - Inflated pipelines - Lack of empathy and understanding of the buyer and their problem Salespeople who are able to control their emotions are better able to listen and ask questions. This strength enables a salesperson to offer insights to prospects that makes them think differently about themselves and their problem. This is a cornerstone of good selling! Yet 42% of sales managers have difficulty controlling their emotions, as do 60% of salespeople. If a manager CAN control their emotions, their salespeople are **16% more likely** to be able to as well. If the manager can *NOT* control their emotions as well as they should, their team is **10% more likely** to let their emotions take control of them. ### Buy Cycle A buy cycle means that how salespeople buy impacts whether or not they will be empathetic to procrastinators, price shoppers, and comparison shoppers. Because they struggle with buying, it is impossible for them to help their buyers make one. Symptoms that indicate that your sales team struggles with a non-supportive buy cycle may include: - Prospects who stop and start, stall, put off, outright lie, or make excuses - Long sales cycles - Losing to competitors - Bloated pipelines - A lot of wasted time following up - Lost or extensively delayed deals - “Ghost” prospects who disappear, or stop responding - Premature presenting or quoting - Discounting Unfortunately, 63% of sales managers struggle with making buying decisions, and 75% of salespeople do. If a manager has a supportive buy cycle, their team is **17% more likely** to share that strength. But if a manager does NOT have a supportive buy cycle, their team is **6% more likely** to share that weakness. ### Comfortable Discussing Money The ability to have in-depth financial conversations with buyers depends on how comfortable your team is discussing money. Symptoms of NOT being comfortable discussion money can include: - Not uncovering budget, or finding more budget - Discounting and price negotiations - Uncover the cost of the status quo - Find an ROI - Sell on value 21% of sales managers are NOT comfortable discussing money, whereas 62% of salespeople are not. Yet if a manger IS comfortable discussing money, their team is **78% more likely** to be able to. For managers who are NOT comfortable discussing money, their team is **31% more likely** not to be comfortable either. So if the sales manager’s mindsets, attitudes and beliefs clearly impact the team- how is your leadership impacting them? What beliefs are you passing onto them? What elements of your culture need to change? What systems and processes need to support that? 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